Is Tesla or SpaceX a Better Bet for Musk Exposure?

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·5 months ago
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Here’s a question: If you’re an investor who wants exposure to Elon Musk, is #SpaceX 🚀 or Tesla a better bet? #The Most Important Thing Today, the answer seemed to be Tesla, with shares in the electric automaker climbing 1% to $405.05 as SpaceX shares tumbled 16% to $154.60. SpaceX shares are still above their IPO price of $135 per share, but today was their third consecutive trading day of decline. Some of the drop might be typical post-IPO comedown. Plus, SpaceX just highlighted the money-hungry nature of its business by kicking off a big post-debut debt offering. Investors could also see Tesla as a cheaper way to get in on a future combined Musk empire, if you buy the idea—increasingly popular in some circles—that it could eventually merge with SpaceX. Both companies benefit from gigantic Musk premiums that give them much higher multiples than peers in their respective industries, but SpaceX’s valuation is in a totally different orbit. SpaceX trades at more than 100 times its 2025 revenue of $18.7 billion, compared to Tesla’s roughly 14 times premium on $95 billion in revenue. SpaceX bulls say they’re buying into Musk’s expansive vision for the company, comprised of data centers orbiting Earth and gigantic settlements on the moon and Mars. But it’s not like Musk’s vision for Tesla is any less messianic—late last year, he was promising that the company’s Optimus robot will “eliminate poverty,” make working “optional” and give every human “amazing medical care.” Hype aside, there’s probably a limited time to take advantage of any arbitrage opportunity between SpaceX and Tesla. After all, Musk and other executives like SpaceX President Gwynne Shotwell stoked speculation in the run-up to the IPO that the companies will eventually merge, and Musk already has a significant record of mushing his companies together really quickly. (Remember that at the beginning of 2025, SpaceX, xAI and X were all separate private companies.) SpaceX and Tesla also already share some employees and say they’re working together on projects like AI agents and chip fabs that should benefit both firms. For investors looking to buy into a future Musk Inc., buying Tesla seems like the more promising route for now.
 
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This is a question worth asking since the #SpaceX 🚀 IPO. What is the real value of operations in space, especially when constrained by physics, rather than by hype? Space is not an independent off-world economy; it is a highly functional infrastructure layer for the terrestrial economy. Investors should ignore the sci-fi hype and focus on the reliable, thermodynamic-compliant infrastructure connecting our planet. #Space law thequantasticjournal.com/..
What Is the Commercial Value of Space?

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What Is the Commercial Value of Space?

This is a question worth asking since the SpaceX IPO. What is the real value of operations in space, especially when constrained by…

 
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Cyril

Tesla and #SpaceX 🚀 are deepening ties (theinformation.com/articl.. a chip push as merger chatter swirls.
How Elon Musk Is Building the Terafab Team Inside Tesla

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How Elon Musk Is Building the Terafab Team Inside Tesla

Expectations are growing that Elon Musk will propose a merger of SpaceX and Tesla. But a close look at Tesla’s org chart, including the $55 billion Terafab semiconductor manufacturing project, a Tesla and SpaceX collaboration, shows that the two companies are already operating as one entity in ...

 
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Cyril

There’s no better time for SpaceX to acquire Tesla than now. So will it? One of the first things any aspiring rocketry entrepreneur needs to thoroughly understand is Newton’s Third Law. Put succinctly, for every action there is always opposed an equal reaction. Put relevantly, you’ve got to eject a whole lot of mass along the way to space. And put poetically, the only way humans have figured out how to move forward is to leave something behind. Elon Musk knows this. Finding a use for the things that had historically been discarded on the way to orbit remains the very bread and butter of the firm. This is why a report from the Wall Street Journal about some internal conversations at Tesla was so very interesting. According to the WSJ, Tesla has for years been operated in a way that its Chinese business could be easily separated from its United States business in the event of a geopolitical issue or an M&A opportunity. The news is that some Tesla execs have been instructed to prepare for the separation of the China business because of a long-buzzed-about merger possibility where the assets of Tesla will be acquired by SpaceX, a consolidation of Elon’s empire. Theoretically, great: being the publicly-traded asset that allows investors to buy into the present value of future free-cash flows, and, arguably more importantly, the idea of Elon Inc. was super for Tesla, it’s not readily obvious the market needs two such assets. Public markets have traditionally been phenomenal for Elon Inc. because there’s been no shortage of techno-optimists willing to fund his visions despite scattershot operational performance. With interest divided between SpaceX and Tesla lately, there hasn’t been enough fuel to propel either stock higher. Practically, there are issues: mainly because SpaceX is a defense contractor (sales to the U.S. government are 20.9% of its business last year) and Tesla has a massive China presence (the Middle Kingdom accounted for 18% of sales in the first half, good for Tesla’s second-largest market, and it is home to two major factories.) In any tie-up, SpaceX would be the obvious contender for senior partner. Musk built the company specifically to give him effectively permanent voting control, with him alone controlling 93.6 percent of Class B super-voting shares and holding well over 50% of the voting power. It’s also just bigger, which is relevant in any matter of physics. The timing is interesting. SpaceX currently has about 5% of its shares on public markets, about 640 million shares. The first lock-up expiration will come two days after the company reports its earnings, currently slated for Tuesday, when up to 911.5 million shares will become available for trading, and then those lockups will continue to expire as time goes on. If SpaceX were to acquire Tesla, the incentive would be to do so sooner rather than later, before Musk’s allies and financial backers consider cashing out some of those shares. If it were to be a for stock deal, SpaceX would ideally want to do that acquisition before there was any selling pressure on its shares. Just ask CoreWeave. Either way, if these companies are going to merge, the sooner the better. Though Musk pushed back on the story, if the part of Tesla that operates outside of China is preparing for ejection, that may be a sign that Tesla is preparing to undergo an interesting maneuver and perhaps even an orbital rendezvous.

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